Village of Lombard Legistar System

Dave & JoAnne Gorak, 36 N. Ahrens

Karen Visik, 123 West Road

Lisa Von Pechmann, 99 West Road

Brian Ferguson, 99 West Road

Don Geigner, 406 W. St. Charles Road

Brian Ferguson spoke regarding Special Assessment 213. Resident sent a proposal

from their attorney to Tom Bayer. (He handed out copies of the proposal to the

committee members.)

Steve Sebby-There has been approval by the Board of Trustees to abandon that portion

of SA213.

Brian Ferguson-There were some members that didn't know this proposal was on the

table, so we thought this would be a good opportunity to give this to you. The city

proposes a 24' road, we think a 22'. Issues of safety, sidewalk is a good idea, but on

one side. At 76 West Road there are two trees that are over 200 years old. We're

trying to save the trees because we love the look of West Road.

Don Geigner-This entire project came to my attention almost a year ago. I heard about

Eugenia where they settled for no sidewalk. All the rest of West Road there is only

sidewalk on one side. My lot is pie shaped and the Village has had to use most of their

right-of-way. At my end it [the street] will have to be wide, but north of me 22' would be

OK. The safety issue wouldn't really make any difference because you can mark the

tire tracks going 10-30' into my yard. There are also unresolved issues with the

temporary sidewalk.

Stan Rickard reviewed the history behind the temporary sidewalk. It was installed

because of a recommendation from the Transportation & Safety Committee when bus

service for the school kids was cancelled.

Don Geigner-Ralph Borgatell was supposed to recommend a temporary easement and

financial compensation.Most of the people's objections were the trees, and the sidewalk

because of the tree removal. The judge said why don't you people get together and

meet, so December 29th most of the people met with Public Works. Five people were

representing three homes. It was agreed to talk to our attorney about starting with the

sewer and water and get together a list of our requests. January 29th your attorney told

the judge that we were talking and negotiating, so the judge granted a continuance.

February 14th the Village settled with Tom Kelly. The next court date is April 10th, right

now the judge is under the impression that we're talking, but we haven't heard anything

from the village yet. All we can say is we agreed to continue with the work so you could

get the sewer and watermains in. Our attorney has not received any type of reply from

the village. This does not look good for good faith negotiating. The proposition was

modified since the area is in definite question as to who owns it.

Steve Sebby-Negotiations have to be reached on easements or acquiring property. It

was necessary for us to separate the project. I understand where your coming from

concerning a good faith effort by the Village of Lombard.

Brian Ferguson-On these proposals, how do you feel about it? Steve Sebby-That's not

fair to ask. From an engineering standpoint the cheapest thing to do is put in a nice

straight road. I apologize as a representative if the village has given you an impression

that they hey won't deal in good faith. When North Avenue is widened West Road will

no longer be a thoroughfare and I think that will resolve some of your problems.

Stephen Preins-As far as the sidewalks on Eugenia, the reason that was done was

because of the nature of the street. West Road is a through street and it does need

sidewalk somewhere. If we have 200 year old trees we're planning to take out, we

should be saving them. It completely changes the nature of the street. You're changing

the nature of their neighborhood and that's not right. Joan Destephano-I believe we

should save those mature trees. I went through and looked at all of them. There are

some scrub trees. We should identify by household which trees the village is talking

about taking out or salvaging.

Don Geigner-I have a file of 56 pictures by street # of almost all of the trees in question.

Steve Sebby-There has to be a safe clearance around these roads. Don Geigner-Just a

sidewalk being 5-10' off the road is not full protection. The reason West Road is only 14'

wide is because that part of West is not the same type of road as further north. North of

the Great Western Trail is whole different area.

Gordon Hallbeck-You can't compare West Road to Eugenia. Eugenia is all dead ends.

To compare West with Eugenia is totally inaccurate. The negotiations have to come

and there has to be variations made under these conditions. It's very understandable

that everybody wants to save the old trees, but somewhere along the line some of these

trees are going to go. Until negotiations are final and they determine right-of-way it's

hard to have a discussion about sidewalks. Once of the problems we run into is people

who thing the village right-of-way is their front yard. Until the negotiations are complete

we can't say much.

Karen Visik-I want to reiterate what Brian said. Our real concern is saving the trees and

saving the aesthetics of the neighborhood. On the very same road there will be sections

that will have a single sidewalk. In the interest of saving trees there will be

compromising on these issues. Steve Preins-This committee isn't going to bend much

on sidewalks. You're going to have to think about where you can work with the village.

Lisa Von Pechmann-The reason we talked about putting a sidewalk on the east side to

Grove is because of the trees and the utility poles. When we gave this proposal, the city

knew in November there was a question with he right-of-way. Our proposal would also

save the taxpayers thousands and thousands of dollars.

Dave Gorak-(regarding Backyard Drainage Grant Program)-This program was created

1/20/00 and made retroactive to 12/01/99, which was right after my work was done.

David Arnold-We wanted to provide the monies to get the water out of the major areas.

I'm not prepared to give money to everybody that walks in.

Joan Destephano-I would think if you could prove with some additional documentation

that you have water standing there for more than 72 hours we would consider it. It's not

just a retroactive issue, it's a qualifying issue. Maybe you can prove that your neighbor

has water problems.

Gordon Hallbeck-Does this system meet all the requirements? Stan Rickard-He's got a

gravity drain system with a 4" pipe. That does act as a restrictor.

Stan Rickard reviewed the documents for this item. Nothing has really changed in the

last several months. Staff is recommending that this program be approved as

presented. The purpose of this program is to remove clear water that is associated in

particular with water coming from the private side. Downspouts are a source of a lot of

clear water that can fill up a sanitary sewer quickly if there is a connection. The second

purpose is to reduce transport and treatment charges at Glenbard Wastewater

Authority. We pay based on the flow received at the facility. The third purpose is to

reduce back ups and basement flooding. The elements of the program are as we stated

before.

Stephen Preins-Regarding the pilot program, the numbers came from an inspection of 3

blocks? Stan Rickard-30 inspections. Gordon Hallbeck-I don't think that's going to be

true [compliance assumptions] you're basin it on one of the oldest sections of town.

Stan Rickard-You may be right. We'll know more when we get through the other 200

homes in Olde Towne. The future years are a real guesstimate. We're just trying to get

a magnitude down.

Gordon Hallbeck-The monies that are set aside that are not used, will hey be transferred

to the same fund the next year? Stan Rickard-It's a CIP discussion item.

Stan Rickard-#4 IEPA is relentless whenever Glenbard Wastewater Authority gets

ambitious about some projects. The IEPA is always asking them about I & I. They have

limited capacity at the plant and when it rains they jump from 12 mgd to about 50 mgd.

a lot of that comes from combined seers. There's limited transport capacity in the

interceptors.